Dashboards UIv4 is available starting August 23!

Minimum widget size is great increased in v4 reducing data density.  My at-a-glance dashboards now require scrolling.  Horizontally, it’s slightly increased, Vertically, I’ve lost an entire row of widgets.

That’s my primary complaint right now. What i used to be able to tell at a glance now requires interaction.

I like that philosophy. Lines up pretty well with what i’ve been gearing towards subconsciously.

Agreed on the size. 1920x1080 also lets it fit on cheap TVs that are often used as NOC wall mounted monitors. Having to scroll on a wall board is detrimental.

Also, I’ve got horizontal scroll bars on table widgets where both columns clearly fit within the width of the widget. 

Have you noticed that the “fullscreen” option doesn’t actually remove all the chrome anymore? The full screen is more like 94% screen. 

Oh, and the “more options” menu is actually called “overflow”. I know overflow is the technical term for that kind of thing, but it’s not what people think of and it’s not what it used to be called. Signifiers and mappings people (Chapter 2 last two pages).

Also, have you noticed how much wasted space there is at the top and bottom of widgets with pagination? I know it’s shown at the bottom everywhere else, but 90% of the top of the widget is white space, and 80% of the bottom widget is gray space. Combine the two and leave more space to show data.

I mean, just compare the data density. This is the same widget on the same dashboard. Only difference is UIv4 (top) and UIv3 (bottom). Previously, I could display 6 alerts in that widget. Now it shows 2. Losing 2/3 of the data I had at my fingertips is a bad move. UIv3 even had room to display the entire text of the notes field, while UIv4 cut off that and the Alert Rule column values.

@Stuart Weenig I’ll probably be buying that book now… I also reference the Apple Human Interface Guidelines from the 90s frequently.  So much hands on research in there specifically relating to how people interact with technology.

Fullscreen widgets works so much better than they did in UIv3. I have several dashboards with only one widget and sizing has always been a problem. With how fullscreen widgets work now, would it be possible to specify a widget that automatically opens in full screen by default?

It would help me in this case, but it would also make possible a different troubleshooting workflow:

What if you could go to a dashboard and a single widget gives you a really good idea of whether or not something is wrong. If nothing is wrong, you move on. If something is wrong, you “un-fullscreen” it and there are a ton more widgets that help you walk down the troubleshooting path. Sort of like top level dashboard and drill in dashboard.

I am still not seeing a toggle for UIv4 in Dashboards, are there additional groups I need to join for this?

Exactly my question here. Once you can put logs on dashboards, you’d have the power to almost completely customize the experience by giving people certain dashboards with certain capabilities. A dashboard with one widget on it should default to full size of the dashboard (no double scroll bars). 

In version 191, existing dashboards that work in UIv3 are broken.  See https://panoramicdata.logicmonitor.com/santaba/uiv4/dashboards/dashboardGroups-12,dashboards-314 as an example.

I run in MS Edge (Chromium)… and haven’t used the fullscreen much as I do a lot of “drive-by” interactions with dashboards, quick load from favorites or search and then filter to info needed to troubleshoot.

The target screensize for us is the default laptop screen that we issue our employees.  It’s the smallest non-handheld screen-size that will view the content.

The design philosophy is from working at a newspaper and how the front page is laid out to encourage people to buy the paper as a one off from either a newspaper stand or from the front of a business/grocery store.  The goal is instant engagement with minimal effort investment from the consumer.

Just warning you, that book will open your eyes to how badly most software is designed simply by ignorance.

I started my IT career in UI/UX… I’m painfully aware :)