New Settings Beta!
Welcome to the new Settings Beta! The new Settings page offers the same great functionality in the legacy UI with some new items that unlock powerful capabilities such as HTTP OAuth 2.0, Event Driven Ansible, and improved navigation. Your feedback is extremely valuable to us so please feel to chime in.
What’s changed in Settings v4?
Improved Navigation
The first thing you might notice after enabling the settings preview is that it has a familiar structure in the left-hand navigation with an updated feel. The improved settings navigation comes with functionality to: collapse/expand core features in the navigation list along with filtering and sorting across the different settings areas.
Audit Logs
A couple of noteworthy mentions in Audit Logs is a more readable table structure with an easier to use Filter. You’ll notice that you can see much more information in the description with an arrow to expand more details at the end of the description.
Account Information
Account Information has three main paths: Portal Information, Portal Settings, and Financial. You’ll notice when you want to edit information that the controls will look different such as a pencil and when adding contacts information you don’t need to save each row.
- Contacts (previous UI) was renamed to Portal Information which more accurately describes its content.
- Portal Settings now contains contact information
- Financial has the same billing and payment information as before but with an easier to read structure with the familiar edit controls.
Usage (Beta)
This is an exciting new capability that lets you visualize LM license usage. Right now LM Logs and APM Metrics are supported if you’re using those products today.
- LM Logs - you’ll notice a “Products” dropdown that lets you select the product you want to view data for. At a glance, you’ll see month-to-date usage, can select some top usage analysis queries, and view cumulative usage. All of this data is filtered by the month and has control. One cool thing about the cumulative usage graph is that it has some forecasting ability which can be helpful for spotting potential overages.
- APM Metrics contains a combined view along with APM Push Metrics and APM OpenMetics. All views have the same visuals, controls, and functionality as the LM Logs product
- More products coming to Usage in future releases!
Alert Settings
Alert Settings should feel very consistent with improved readability. You’ll notice filtering capability added to Root Cause Analysis and External Alerting.
Collectors
Collectors page has a familiar table layout and controls to other pages in Setting creating a theme of consistency. Under the collector tab you have a new ability to filter by all collectors or collector groups.
- Within the table you have the ability to view if an escalation chain is configured in the table. If an escalation chain is found it will send the name.
- The collector actions for each collector are now in the a new bottom panel, with the info, resources, SDT and websites tabs
- The collector bulk actions can be performed now by selecting collectors (checking the boxes) and applying the bulk action from the menu when it shows up. (In UIV3, there was a button called actions present all the time)
- In the legacy UI, manage flows were hidden under the support button in the manage form, now these are accessible from the collectors main page bottom panel.
- The previous add flow had at least four modals, we have now reduced it to single modal for confirmation on save.
- The collector status screen was a blob of data on a single page earlier, now this information has been organized into a table that can be filtered and in a more readable format.
- The collector updates tab now shows a table with an update type column that helps users see what status the updates are in, (very similar to the SDT tab in alerts), showing the active/ scheduled NetScans.
OpenTelemetry Collectors
OpenTelemtry was introduced in the legacy Settings page allowing you to consume your application traces.
Integrations
We’re very excited to announce Event Driven Ansible and OAuth2.0 for Custom HTTP in the new Settings. Event Driven Ansible allows you to unlock the power of alerts and take remediation actions based on an alert. You’ll notice that the Integrations page has a familiar structure to the legacy UI with filters and tabs. All the controls for the table were moved to the left side column called “Actions”
OpsNotes
OpsNotes carries over the same structure from the legacy UI with updated filtering controls to help you find what you’re looking for with ease.
LogicModules
Updates to the LogicModules settings coming in a future release.
Message Templates
Message Templates introduces a new left hand navigation that allows you to filter by alert type. When an Alert Type is selected you’re able to define the alert and clear message with fewer clicks through the gear icon.
NetScans
NetScans page has a familiar table layout and controls to other pages in Settings, creating a theme of consistency. Under the collector tab you have a new ability to filter by all collectors or collector groups. NetScans no longer opens up with a blank right panel, it shows all the NetScans so the user has the option to view information by clicking the manage icon.
User Access
User Access has a new left hand navigation that contains some filtering options to help you find what you’re looking for. You can filter by groups and by users with the updated UI controls.
LM User
·2 years agoYeah, that’s what I was doing (the user filter). But the syntax has changed. The same filter that worked in UIv3 (!(System*)) doesn’t work in UIv4 where the filter is simpler: !System*.
Joe Williams
·2 years agoWhen filtering Audit logs, filters that used to work in UIv3 don’t work anymore. For example:
(!(System*))
Also, when setting a filter, that filter disappears when the page is reloaded or if I navigate away and back. This was handy in the old UI.
To filter out system, you have to apply the filter on the User column type in !System* and then click on Use as Glob Expression.
The fact the filter doesn’t save is very annoying tho.
LM User
·2 years agoWhen filtering Audit logs, filters that used to work in UIv3 don’t work anymore. For example:
(!(System*))
Also, when setting a filter, that filter disappears when the page is reloaded or if I navigate away and back. This was handy in the old UI.
David Bond
·2 years agoWhen adding an API token to a user, the UI is NOT intuitive. It took me ages to realise why my new Token wasn’t there. See if you can work it out…
David Bond
·2 years agoThe new DataSources editor UI should look more like this:
For those who weren’t around in 2010, this is a screenshot of the old V1 UI that I found in our archives!!!
It’s testament to the original designers how little the data structure has changed.
LM User
·2 years agoSomething like this:
LM User
·2 years agoAh, I figured it out: the alert is counted in both the critical bucket and the ack’d bucket if it’s a critical that has been ack’d. Presumably, if it’s been ack’d, is in SDT, and is critical, it would increment three of the pills. Definitely not what I would have expected. Not a good use of feedback:
Luckily, hiding the ACK’d and SDT’d alerts results in a clear communication: you have x critical, y error, and z warning alerts that haven’t been addressed. I guess that’s good enough for my use case, so I’ll hide ACK and SDT counts. But, with them shown and them showing up in more than one bucket what is being communicated? “Look, you have 16 critical alerts and 121 ACK’d alerts. How many of those overlap? I won’t tell you until you click in and apply a couple different filters and count them yourself.”
There are no tooltips when you hover over those pills.
I guess I’m asking if there can be a toggle that lets alerts only count in bucket or the other. Mutually exclusive.
LM User
·2 years agoSomething is up with the alert counts in the ribbon bar when toggling the alert counts in portal settings.
LM User
·2 years agoEditing an alert integration today. The scroll bars within scroll bars are frustrating, but even more so when the inner box overflows over the outer box covering the save button. After a while, i figured out that there’s a little tiny save button (icon, no text) at the very top of the modal that popped up as i was editing the payload. After saving that and closing the modal, there was the main save button (text only, no icon) at the very bottom.
Also, the entire time i had the connectwise integration in edit mode, it appears to have continually reconnected to CW to get the alert parameters refreshed. Maybe it was doing that before, but seems overkill.
Breaking several of the 7 commandments of UI design:
Total UI design score: 2/7. Failure. If you don’t know what the above are or what text they come from, you should not be in UI design.
LM User
·3 years agoUpgrading a collector today. Had collectors/updates pulled up where I saw the scheduled update. Refreshed the page and it took no less than 45 seconds to refresh the page. During that time, i found myself again wondering why the collector subpages “collectors”, “updates”, and “update history” are separate tabs instead of being sections underneath the collectors object in the tree.
LM User
·3 years agoI’ve brought this up before since it’s been an issue since the alerts page:
When resizing the columns, there is a divider between columns that highlights when i mouse over it. However, my mouse cursor doesn’t change and i can’t actually do anything by clicking and dragging that object.
Instead, i have to move to the left one pixel. At that point, my cursor changes to the resize cursor and if i click and drag, i can resize the column.
This is like having on drunk glasses where i think i am pointing at the correct thing, but i’m actually pointing too far to the right and i have to train myself to grab just to the left of the handle to actually resize stuff.
LM User
·3 years agoWhen working with alert rules, the first think i have to do is change the page size from 25 to 100.
However, when i edit an alert rule and save it, when i come back the page size is back to 25. Would like it to stay where i put it.
LM User
·3 years agoI like the logs usage page. Would be even better if i could have a drop down to filter by tenant.
Could these widgets be copied to a dashboard?
Cole McDonald
·3 years ago@Cole McDonald, same as this?
https://community.logicmonitor.com/open-beta-process-31/numbers-wrong-in-account-information-3793
Yes it is.
LM User
·3 years ago@Cole McDonald, same as this?
https://community.logicmonitor.com/open-beta-process-31/numbers-wrong-in-account-information-3793Cole McDonald
·3 years agoThe alert wasn’t as obvious previously… and I tend to spend more times in the ‘Sources than the rest of the Settings. We did find a math issue in the Portal Information section, the Resource Groups has an associated warning showing 4861/0 (limit exceeded)… we assume the 0 means either null or no-limit… so shouldn’t raise a warning.
LM User
·3 years agoThat notification should have been there before too. Bulk selection would be good, or inheritance from group would be even better. You couldn’t do that in UIv3 though, so net new functionality that.
Cole McDonald
·3 years agoGot the notification and UI toggle showed up. In Collectors, got this notification with no way to select them or set them in bulk:
LM User
·3 years agoDoes the Collectors » Updates page automatically refresh (it didn’t in the old one). Why does Alert have subheadings in the tree for the options under it but Collectors doesn’t (has tabs instead)?
LM User
·3 years agoCollector group list appears to be sorted by ID, not alphabetically.
LM User
·3 years agoI have the toggle at the top of my settings page. Navigating to some stuff keeps me in UIv4. Other stuff not.
Cole McDonald
·3 years agoDarnit… we don’t use any of the products that are currently part of the usage beta. Pretty, but empty currently.
Cole McDonald
·3 years ago@Cole McDonald
I got this to work using (e.g.): https://panoramicdata.logicmonitor.com/santaba/uiv4/settings/usage
Confirmed.. clicking on usage shows the new UI. Thank you.
David Bond
·3 years ago@Cole McDonald
I got this to work using (e.g.): https://panoramicdata.logicmonitor.com/santaba/uiv4/settings/usage
Cole McDonald
·3 years agoI am also unable to get to the new UI… I event tried URL hacking to the new one.
David Bond
·3 years agoSettings is seemingly not available for UIv4 preview in version 191. There is no toggle button.
Example: https://panoramicdata.logicmonitor.com/santaba/uiv3/setting/