New Resources UI
Hey all, welcome to the beta for the new UI! With this includes the new look and feel of Resources.
Here’s a quick glance at what’s new:
- Info tab with properties search and filter
- Alerts tab consistent with Alerts page
- Maps tab consistent with Topology page
- Graphs navigation
- Alert tuning
- Inventory tab with bulk actions
- Overview tab
- Resource dashboard visibility and management
The official product documentation will cover the functionality in more depth: https://www.logicmonitor.com/support/resources-new-ui-overview
Please take the new UI for a test drive and let us know what you think!
Ted Johnsen
Posted 3 years ago·Last reply 2 years ago
79 comments
LM User
·2 years agoSelect a group, go to alert tuning, search for a configsource like “Standard Configs (SSH Exec)”. Notice there is a datapoint called “Check”.
Reset/refresh. Now that all datapoints are chosen, use the other search box (no, not that one, the other one. No not that one, the other one that is right above the datapoint table) to search for “Check”. Notice that the datapoint under the configsource doesn’t show up.
David Bond
·2 years agoLayout issue in the header bar (affects v195).
A long resource breadcrumb incorrectly squashes the DateTime component:
Sarah Luna
·2 years agore: Websites -
we’re currently working on updating the UI to v4 but the migration is still TBD.
David Bond
·2 years ago...
For the record, I was told 5ish years ago that Websites was being moved to resources, which would allow better control of alerts.
It will, and it will also really help with reducing RBAC management requirements also. There is a migration requirement, so I believe the best approach is to provide either option, with the new resource websites being cost "forgiven" during a migration period of 3 months.
A migration tool would be good.
I'd also like to see Netscans work for websites/ping checks, as this could be used to integrate with website management CMDBs and IPAM tools to automatically bring assets into LM management.
Joe Williams
·2 years agoCould we get an update on the migration of the “Websites” tab to UIv4. I hear rumours that this functionality will now reside in the Resources tab, but will we see Websites as “Just another resource type”? Are websites going to be implemented as “WebSources”? I do hope so.
If so, I expect that the resource/instance model will have to change somewhat. Any preview of what the updated santaba endpoint changes will look like?
Any news at all would be welcome 🙂
For the record, I was told 5ish years ago that Websites was being moved to resources, which would allow better control of alerts.
David Bond
·2 years agoCould we get an update on the migration of the “Websites” tab to UIv4. I hear rumours that this functionality will now reside in the Resources tab, but will we see Websites as “Just another resource type”? Are websites going to be implemented as “WebSources”? I do hope so.
If so, I expect that the resource/instance model will have to change somewhat. Any preview of what the updated santaba endpoint changes will look like?
Any news at all would be welcome 🙂
Cole McDonald
·2 years agoCan we have the option to hide this? The overview page was pretty useless to me before. Now it seems LM has decided to take the most click intensive workflow from the overview page and force it to take up screen space on my graphs page:
Would you (or anyone else on this thread) be open to walking through how you currently use graphs and what datapoints you’re looking at? We want to improve this navigation experience if we can
I’m also available to go over ours, but I never use this to view graphs as there’s too much clicking to get to something useful… fundamentally the same as UIv3. Navigating from alerts to instances, I got the graphs I wanted… or I just use the tree to the left to find what I’m looking for… but getting bulk graph data to compare resources for a group doesn’t allow for direct comparison easily, so I go to dashboards and make my own instead. There are workarounds in UIv4 now, but they’re still extra clicks and loss of location and context of the device page you’re currently in.
LM User
·2 years agoYep. Will DM you my calendly link.
Sarah Luna
·2 years agoCan we have the option to hide this? The overview page was pretty useless to me before. Now it seems LM has decided to take the most click intensive workflow from the overview page and force it to take up screen space on my graphs page:
Would you (or anyone else on this thread) be open to walking through how you currently use graphs and what datapoints you’re looking at? We want to improve this navigation experience if we can
Sarah Luna
·2 years agoSo UI4 via a fresh customer account can’t navigate at all.
We build out folders out as ‘Clients\COMPANYID\LocationA\Firewalls’ for example. Well when a client logs in with a fresh account, it loads the root folder and doesn’t let them walk down the tree. The root folder never expands. Can’t even generate a HAR as nothing happens at all. You click nadda.
Hi Joe - I believe this is related to an issue that is being fixed in v196. If you want, you can create a support ticket so they can link it to the original bug since the fix is a couple releases from now.
Joe Williams
·2 years agoSo UI4 via a fresh customer account can’t navigate at all.
We build out folders out as ‘Clients\COMPANYID\LocationA\Firewalls’ for example. Well when a client logs in with a fresh account, it loads the root folder and doesn’t let them walk down the tree. The root folder never expands. Can’t even generate a HAR as nothing happens at all. You click nadda.
Sarah Luna
·2 years agoHi Cole! Can you clarify how the severity icons are inaccurate? We can also hop on a call to go over it if you’re more comfortable sharing out your screen in a 1:1 session.
@Sarah Luna There are 2 open alerts but almost all of his instances are showing alert icons.
yep - don’t know how I missed that 😅 I’ll add it to the list.
LM User
·2 years agoHi Cole! Can you clarify how the severity icons are inaccurate? We can also hop on a call to go over it if you’re more comfortable sharing out your screen in a 1:1 session.
@Sarah Luna There are 2 open alerts but almost all of his instances are showing alert icons.
Sarah Luna
·2 years agoI am still getting the occasional JSON error when trying to leave a page and also seem to get stuck with a blank screen when trying to navigate Resources/instances. Also if an instance has an alert and i click on the instance the alert icon disappears so now if i click to a different instance i cant see the alert icon on the previous clicked instance :( took me a good amount of time to find how to disable an instance. After i did disable I click to move away and got the JSON error.
I see we can select multiple alerts and SDT them or disable them. This will be handy. Also having the group inventory where you can select devices to SDT will be super handy for our 24x7 team. Anything like this so we don't have to single click each item is so valuable.
Hey Barb - for those JSON errors, can you submit a support ticket for those? Also, if you’re comfortable sharing, I would love more insight on the alert icon issue.
Sarah Luna
·2 years agoHi Cole! Can you clarify how the severity icons are inaccurate? We can also hop on a call to go over it if you’re more comfortable sharing out your screen in a 1:1 session.
Cole McDonald
·2 years agoBarb Ramirez
·2 years agoOne of these is disabled can you tell which one?
Barb Ramirez
·2 years agoI am still getting the occasional JSON error when trying to leave a page and also seem to get stuck with a blank screen when trying to navigate Resources/instances. Also if an instance has an alert and i click on the instance the alert icon disappears so now if i click to a different instance i cant see the alert icon on the previous clicked instance :( took me a good amount of time to find how to disable an instance. After i did disable I click to move away and got the JSON error.
I see we can select multiple alerts and SDT them or disable them. This will be handy. Also having the group inventory where you can select devices to SDT will be super handy for our 24x7 team. Anything like this so we don't have to single click each item is so valuable.
David Bond
·2 years agoThere seems to be an issue with phantom alert statuses that only appear when you hover your mouse over the DeviceDataSourceGroup:
LM User
·2 years agoYeah, the magnifying glass is so close to the device name, that i’ve focused instead of selecting about 90% of the time i meant to select.
Does LM still not have a QA department? Or are they just asleep?
Sarah Luna
·2 years agoHi all!
I figured it would be easier to put this all in one post. First - thanks for all the feedback! It’s always appreciated as we’re continuously trying to improve the V4 experience.
Here’s the current status/follow up on the posted items:
Thanks all for your patience as we work through all the feedback!
-Sarah
David Bond
·2 years ago..then when it did start working, I had this wonderful CSS glitch:
David Bond
·2 years agoAre the UIv4 team are living in fantasy-land?
I just got this error message. I tried in another tab and had to log back in (SSO), so I expect that this is down to an expired token after the OS wakes up from sleep:
Full Stack trace:
TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'fantasy-land/map')
at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6645774 at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:3330039 at t.Item (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:3328413) at div at div at Q (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6639960) at oe (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6642332) at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6645377 at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6645774 at div at div at div at m (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6654960) at div at l (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:4568865) at section at z (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6630426) at me (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6662499) at section at t.ResourceTreeTabs (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:3273663) at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:322384 at k (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6652930) at div at aside at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:2767594 at S (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8790455) at t.ResizableContent (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:2766922) at t.PanelCollapsible (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:2775649) at div at div at main at v (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:5153335) at Be (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6665692) at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:5094482 at o (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:5946865) at div at S (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8790455) at E (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:5153581) at o at section at S (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8790455) at B (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6982235) at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:3564935 at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:3564935 at https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6981048 at div at t (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4269361) at W (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4269112) at t (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4268191) at B (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4266658) at z at H at P (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:7339386) at C (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:7340660) at x (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:7341544) at o (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:4371870) at t (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8606261) at t (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8605664) at Kr (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:6733121) at div at t (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4269361) at W (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4269112) at t (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4268191) at B (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4266658) at z at t (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4266798) at B (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4266658) at l (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:7759170) at Suspense at div at S (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8790455) at div at div at S (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8790455) at Dc (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:846947) at div at S (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8790455) at I (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:4628003) at l (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:5132434) at wc (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:848072) at c (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:3798979) at P (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:7339386) at C (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:7340660) at A at Nc (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:846516) at div at Te (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8788544) at D (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:4088679) at t.LMThemeProvider (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:3457109) at n (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:837442) at Gc (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:848758) at f (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8302635) at Su (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:851114) at d (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8325593) at i (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/vendor.js?v=235508:2:8322139) at n (https://static-prod.logicmonitor.com/sbui192-1/v4/bundle.js?v=235508:1:854628)
LM User
·2 years agoFocus on a multi-instance datasource with more than a few instances and more than a few datapoints, then go to the alert tuning tab.
Every datapoint is listed X times where X is the number of instances. Presumably this is so that you can tune the alert on the instance level even though you do not have the instance selected. I get it. However, there’s no way of knowing which datapoint corresponds to which instance. The table doesn’t have an instance column.
If I’m focused on the devicedatasource, I don’t want to see child objects, heredity should only go downward, not upward.
Interestingly, this doesn’t happen when focused on an instance group. I wonder if this is a bug.
I have 32 instances. I have 17 datapoints.
When focused on the devicedatsource, i show 544 Alert Tuning Config Slots. (<== this should be 17)
When focused on a group of 26 instances, i show 17 Alert Tuning Config Slots.
When focused on a single isntance, i show 17 alert tuning config slots.
David Marsh
·2 years agoThe magnifying glass drives me nuts - we need less clicks not more clicks.
Agree about the magnifying glass, it adds to the whole cluttered feeling of the UI. I’m not looking forward to teaching the people I support how to use this interface.
David Bond
·2 years agoIf I enter a dialog, make no changes and cancel, I should not get an “Are you sure?” prompt.
It’s irrelevant whether I’m sure. I made no changes.
Affects both the Resource Group and Resource edit dialogs.
David Bond
·2 years agoOn the Add Resource dialog, there should be an indication that a Collector Group is auto-balanced, like there is in UIv3.
David Bond
·2 years agoOh my goodness - the Javascript console!
David Bond
·2 years ago“Crush to mobile view” doesn’t work. This should go to mobile view when the browser window is thin enough. Bootstrap does this out of the box.
David Bond
·2 years agoI’m afraid the whole of the new UI is unworkable for me. I’m trying to like it, but can’t.
Here are the main issues:
Icons hover text set to “Default” everywhere means I have no idea what these icons mean either:
Dialogs of submenus of tabs of subtabs of submenus. None of this screenshot is intuitive:
Zoom in icon means “Focus?” What the actual metaphor?
We’ve been here before. It’s going to be great. But just now it’s really bad.
LM User
·2 years agoOn the alert tuning tab, it would be nice to be able to filter the datapoint list by logicmodule using glob expressions. And because nobody at LM seems to understand the difference: filter by logicmodule name and/or logicmodule display name. Being able to filter by name means i can get just the datapoints for a specific module, not including datapoints for a different module with the same display name.
Yes, I know i can filter by clicking on the module name in the list, i’m talking about glob expressions.
LM User
·2 years agoThe Resource Custom Property dialog has two critical issues:
Yep, i just discovered that issue as well. Sometimes up to 7 seconds (7000ms) of delay between typing a character and that character showing up on the screen.
This was there before.
David Bond
·2 years agoOn the Poll now screen, there are some nice features, including the ability to see the script output (green).
However, there is a lot wrong:
David Bond
·3 years agoThe Resource Custom Property dialog has two critical issues:
LM User
·3 years agoDid I mention that on the resource level, that “Manage Resource Options” button is not its own button, but its functions are displayed in the overflow menu.
LM User
·3 years agoI find myself heavily using the “view global definition” button in UIv3. I’m using it UIv4 too, but when focused on the instance, it’s one of three options squirreled away under the overflow menu. That’s not a big deal except for the extra couple dozen or so clicks a day for me. The real problem is that the other two options under there are pretty dangerous: “Disable Alert Generation” and “Stop Collecting”. These used to be toggle switches in the old UI and I get why putting them under the overflow is a nice thing to do. However, I’ve had several heart attacks while trying to just navigate to the global definition of a datasource when I thought I accidentally clicked on one of the other two options.
tl;dr - don’t put a non-changing action right next to two pretty severe configuration altering buttons.
Also, why is there an overflow anyway? For one thing, there’s more than enough room for all the buttons. For another thing, the “Manage Resource Options” button is right next to it. Guess what it is? A menu with sub options. That’s right, there are basically two overflow menus right next to each other when you are drilled into the instance.
pgordon
·3 years agoBeen working on tweaking a DataSource. I find myself identifying the resources that need to be tweaked by drilling down to one of the instances from a dashboard. It seems to default to the SDT tab, not sure why. However, in order to tweak it, I have to look at the IOS Config and inspect the running-config. Since I’m on the SDT tab when drilled into the DS instance, the UI seems to think that I will want to look at the SDT tab on the configsource instance as well. I am constantly having to switch tabs.
We need a way to specify which tab will be the default tab that we land on. I’d be fine if it just landed on the first tab, i can reorder them if i want to land on a different one. The idea of LM trying to help me by switching to the SDT tab because i was on the SDT tab before is counter-helpful.
I’m having this happen as well, very frustrating to have to keep ending up on a tab I’m not working with
LM User
·3 years agoBeen working on tweaking a DataSource. I find myself identifying the resources that need to be tweaked by drilling down to one of the instances from a dashboard. It seems to default to the SDT tab, not sure why. However, in order to tweak it, I have to look at the IOS Config and inspect the running-config. Since I’m on the SDT tab when drilled into the DS instance, the UI seems to think that I will want to look at the SDT tab on the configsource instance as well. I am constantly having to switch tabs.
We need a way to specify which tab will be the default tab that we land on. I’d be fine if it just landed on the first tab, i can reorder them if i want to land on a different one. The idea of LM trying to help me by switching to the SDT tab because i was on the SDT tab before is counter-helpful.
LM User
·3 years agoSDT icon only shows on instances where there is an alert. I have a device which is in SDT. It has several alerts. However, the resource tree only shows the SDT icon on members of the tree where it or its children currently have open alerts:
I can see why someone might want this, because the alternative is an SDT icon on every member of the tree. However, the current display gives the impression that only certain instances under the device are in SDT.
Please give us a toggle so we can change this setting to the way we prefer.
User level setting can override portal level setting:
Display SDT icon on:
[ ] items with active alerts
[ ] all items in active SDT
LM User
·3 years agoSame here. It wasn’t working a few months ago, then they fixed it. Appears they may have broken it again.
David Bond
·3 years agoIt is not possible to connect a Remote SSH Session (I’ve not tried the others):
...leads to…
LM User
·3 years ago@Stuart Weenig The little chip Icon is the new iconography for “Collector” … I assume it’s meant to be lines of data coming into the middle square.
So, we can now use Cisco 3560Gs as collectors? Awesome!!
If your signifier has a bad mapping, users can’t use the affordance.
LM User
·3 years agoSeems like the resource icon should be changed, in that case.seems like the resource icon should be changed, in that case.
LM User
·3 years agoAs in, it's meant to represent that the resource is a collector? Seems like a waste of space.
Cole McDonald
·3 years ago@Stuart Weenig The little chip Icon is the new iconography for “Collector” … I assume it’s meant to be lines of data coming into the middle square.
LM User
·3 years agoWhen i set the pagination for a table to be larger than the current page, it requires a scroll. I scroll through the data on the first page, then hit the button to go to the next page. It doesn’t take me to the top of the next page. This is counterintuitive.
LM User
·3 years agoTo clarify, I want to see which ones are set at that group. So, I’d want to be able to filter by the value in the “Static Threshold Set at” or “Dynamic Threshold Set at” field where their value is the same as the current group focused on.
LM User
·3 years agoWhen focused on a resource group and looking at the alert tuning tab, is there a way to filter or sort to only show the thresholds that have been set at that level? I’ve got 1002 “Alert Tuning Config Slots” but I’d like to see the ones that are actually set.
We can’t sort by anything other than the datapoint column, it seems.
Also, there is a way to filter by logicmodule display name, but there’s no way to filter by logicmodule name (since any number of modules can have the same display name). Which VMware VM Status is which? They have different names, but the same display name.
It would also be more useful if the table itself could be filtered like most other tables. Filter by datasource, by datapoint, by the presence or absence of a static or dynamic threshold, etc.
David Bond
·3 years agoThroughout the UI, the Resource Group selector should permit the user to type any valid substring of the Resource Group.
For example, if I have a full path of PDL - Panoramic Data/Azure/Redis Cache, I should be able to simply type “Redis” and autocomplete should find the relevant group for me. Also, it shouldn’t wrap over multiple lines.
LM User
·3 years agoSo, you can’t select a datasource group in the tree. If you do, it selects the first datasource under it and expands it (then selects the first instance under it sometimes). This has frustrated me a lot since the first datasource isn’t usually the one i want (just because it’s alphabetically before the others doesn’t make it more interesting).
Also, while you’re messing with stuff, can in request new functionality? I often use the “debug” button the raw data tab to get me to the right collector for the device i’m currently looking at. In UIv3, I have to navigate down to an instance and go to the raw data tab. However, the link for the debug button in that location (and all instances on that device) is the same. Could you put that link in the device overflow menu?
LM User
·3 years agoResponse to this.
I agree that is way too messy. But I hesitate to just give each icon a column. That would likely make worse the padding that already exists between the right border of the tree container and the names of the objects in the tree.
What does the microchip with the question mark even mean?
Do we need the dead icon if the alert has been ACKd?
If the bell has a slash through it, doesn’t that mean alerting is turned off? How can it have an alert if alerting is turned off?
Could the question-mark-microchip or skull icons replace the alert icons, just change the color to indicate the underlying severity?
If a critical is ack’d, do i need to see the critical icon or is the ack icon enough? Maybe make it a red checkmark instead of a red flame?
David Bond
·3 years agoCloud Resource naming needs a rethink.
For example, for Azure Application Insights, this is not useful:
The string “ApplicationInsights” is superfluous in the tree and the actual useful information has been hidden by ellipsis.
David Bond
·3 years agoCan we talk about this mess?
Surely each icon should be in a predictable position horizontally?
LM User
·3 years agoI expanded a graph while drilled into an instance. It took me a full 2 minutes to realize the timeframe selector is not in the upper right hand corner, but in the upper left corner. Very inconsistent look and feel.
David Bond
·3 years agoI’m unable to create a Map of a VERY small Kubernetes cluster. I just get a spinner (it’s been over 5 minutes now). Not useable.
LM User
·3 years agoDon’t know if it’s been mentioned before but when looking at the info tab for an instance, the Properties widget doesn’t use all the available space. It’s like it thinks there should be the device level widgets on the right hand side, but they’re not there. So it’s just wasted space.
LM User
·3 years agoThere’s some huge padding on the right side of the tree container. It’s unnecessarily truncating object names in the resource tree:
Cole McDonald
·3 years agoMorning folks, encountered a few things today forcing myself to try the new UI more…
Barb Ramirez
·3 years agoHi - May I talk about disabled datasources. The new UI handles it very poorly or not at all. In the new UI a disabled Datasource looks the same as an enabled Datasource. In the UI I use everyday because its awesome, the disabled datasources are list under ‘Disabled Datasources’. This is great because it keeps the resource clean and easy to read.
I keep trying to use the New UI but i find it so cumbersome to navigate and hard to look at, I never last longer than a couple hours as it slows me down so much.
The magnifying glass drives me nuts - we need less clicks not more clicks.
It really feels very Windows 3.11
What would be nice to see if its possible is to be able to search a selected group.
Elisa Olivieri
·3 years agoI know a lot of people probably worked hard on this and not everyone will agree with me, but I personally hate it.
I find it almost unusable. It’s incredibly slow and I’m never sure if I missed clicking the element.
Honesty is the best policy. Truly, customer’s honest feedback and criticism allows us to make changes to the product in the future. Appreciate the transparency David!
jcayton252
·3 years agoI know a lot of people probably worked hard on this and not everyone will agree with me, but I personally hate it.
I find it almost unusable. It’s incredibly slow and I’m never sure if I missed clicking the element.
It’s certainly way too busy and hard on the eyes. I’ve been playing with it for a few months now to help with bug ID and feedback but I can’t even bear to use it long before toggling it back off.
LM User
·3 years agoI’m not concluded on that. I’ve found the search option pretty handy since we have so many properties i ended up using the browser’s search capability in most cases anyway.
In a meeting with the UI folks, I did suggest that the different sections if the info page should have the same layout options as the graphs page. Give me the ability to put them into 1, 2, or 3 columns. On a tall monitor (regular monitor rotated 90 degrees) the one column makes sense. With a widescreen monitor, there’s a lot of wasted screen space if they can’t be side by side. Not sure why it would be terribly difficult, CSS knows how to deal with wrapping of divs on wide vs. skinny screens.
michaeld
·3 years agoNoticed a couple of things I would like to highlight
Agreed, the spreadsheet view of the new Info tab is a step backwards in look/feel. It makes an already long list of properties (depending upon the device) seem even longer. The old view IMO looked better visually and was a more effective use of screen real estate.
Having the “Manage” page for resources be a pop-over worked better IMO than refreshing the subpage when going into and leaving.
michaeld
·3 years agoJust got access to the new UI late last week and have to reiterate what @David Marsh said, the new UI is almost unusably slow.
Also on the resources page having to click precisely on the greater than (>) symbol or magnifying glass to expand stuff out rather than just clicking on the item itself is irritating.
The two combine into a very frustrating user experience where you’re guessing why the UI isn’t responding to what you’re trying to do.
Mosh
·3 years agoSome other things I’ve noticed:
Mosh
·3 years agoHey @Mosh Thanks sharing that, good catch. Do you like the expanded modal or would you prefer that expands into full screen as labeled?
Hi, full screen (or tab) would be best in my view.
I would also echo the comments of others that the new UI is very slow and sluggish.
LM User
·3 years agoI might find it more useful if it sorted by name, ascending alphabetically. Or if, once i sorted it that way, it stayed. But no customization survives a page reload.
SteveB
·3 years agoNoticed a couple of things I would like to highlight
Error
Duplicate entry 'csInstance_10698135' for key 'name' Query being executed when exception was thrown: insert into s7662d3db41df4626a85d9ca6a98071d9.configurations (name, value) values ('csInstance_10698135','1652156450739')
The graphs when selecting a device in this case an Arista switch are not the critical statistics such as CPU, Memory, throughput but more likely the first few data sources, admittedly this probably is configurable, but typically for infrastructure resources CPU, Memory, Throughput etc are common graphs you would want to look at rather than fan speed and device temperature.
These are the ones that I have found at the moment not really noticed a speed issue though.
LM User
·3 years agoHey @Mosh Thanks sharing that, good catch. Do you like the expanded modal or would you prefer that expands into full screen as labeled?
It should do like other “fullscreen” buttons do on the rest of the UI. It should open full screen.
LM User
·3 years agoI know you didn’t delete mine, which is why I didn’t say it was deleted. I said it appears to have been deleted. There’s no notification to the OP and no linkage from the old location to the new location.
Use tags to track stuff. Especially since artifacts will be reused across pages. Tables applies to all UIv4 pages where they exist. Are you going to move my post to the other features when the PM finally figures that out? Tags would handle this.
Unavailable member
·3 years ago@Stuart Weenig I did not delete any feedback, only merged your posts in with this primary post so we can track the feedback per feature. If they are not related to this feature or the other one posted, you can add them to the general feedback post, or LMK and I can move them.
LM User
·3 years agoI’ve noticed this primarily with the properties table. I readjust the width of the columns, but the next time i navigate away and back, the default width (which hardly takes advantage of the available screen real estate) is back again. I’ve reordered the columns, and that doesn’t stick either.
My subject line disappeared. This is “Table settings are not persistent”. While I appreciate that the PMs don’t have any idea how to navigate the community, putting all responses for resources under this one thread is going to be unsustainable. Why not just instruct us to tag with either “Resources, UIv4” or “Reports, UIv4” or “Services, UIv4”.
I’ve already lost where my things are. And it appears that feedback is being deleted. It’s also going to make it harder to see which problems should be the highest priority in getting fixed. When someone comes in, they’ll have to read through this entire thread to see if someone has already mentioned the problem they are bringing to light.
LM User
·3 years agoI had several favorites in v3. The favorites tab in v4 is empty.
LM User
·3 years agoI’ve noticed this primarily with the properties table. I readjust the width of the columns, but the next time i navigate away and back, the default width (which hardly takes advantage of the available screen real estate) is back again. I’ve reordered the columns, and that doesn’t stick either.
Ted Johnsen
OP3 years agoHey @Mosh Thanks sharing that, good catch. Do you like the expanded modal or would you prefer that expands into full screen as labeled?
LM User
·3 years agoI've had the same experience. Everything is slow, and it's never quite clear if the back button started navigating somewhere.
David Marsh
·3 years agoI know a lot of people probably worked hard on this and not everyone will agree with me, but I personally hate it.
I find it almost unusable. It’s incredibly slow and I’m never sure if I missed clicking the element.
Mosh
·3 years agoIn the new resource UI view, when viewing configuration backups, the icon labelled “View Full Screen” simply opens a small dialog window in the middle of the view, which is hardly “full screen”. I was expecting it to take up the full view.